People v. Ormsby

Decision Date14 June 1882
Citation12 N.W. 671,48 Mich. 494
CourtMichigan Supreme Court
PartiesPEOPLE v. ORMSBY.

After the regular conviction of a person charged with crime he can no longer insist on being personally present in court for further proceedings, such as the disposition of a motion for a new trial.

MARSTON, J.

The respondent was tried and convicted upon an information charging robbery. A motion was afterwards made for a new trial and several reasons assigned therefor, one being that the verdict was contrary to the evidence. On the twenty-eight day of February this motion was heard, and on the second day of March was overruled and denied. The error now complained of is, that the court did not require the presence of the respondent upon the argument and decision of this motion, and that as the court had to pass upon the facts, it was in the nature of a trial and his presence was necessary. The record does not affirmatively show that he was or was not present. It does not show his presence during the trial and when judgment was rendered, and that no such objection was then made although an opportunity for so doing was afforded.

In Grimm v. People, 14 Mich. 308, the record showed the presence of the accused on the first day of the trial, but did not state whether he was present or absent during the intermediate days thereof, and it was held that this condition of the record was no ground of error.

We neeed not however dispose of this case upon any question of mere presumption. After a trial has been had in open court in the presence of the accused and he has been convicted, he has no longer any right to insist upon being personally present in court when a motion is made or heard in his case. If he has such a right then for the same reason he could insist upon being brought into this court when the case is heard and also when it is disposed of.

We find no error and the judgment must be affirmed.

COOLEY and CAMPBELL, JJ., concurred.

GRAVES, C.J., did not sit in this case.

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  • State v. Messino
    • United States
    • Missouri Supreme Court
    • July 3, 1930
    ...That the determination of a motion for new trial is not part of the trial and does not require defendant's presence, see also People v. Ormsby, 48 Mich. 494; Howard v. Commonwealth, 24 Ky. Law Rep. 612; State v. Sharp, 145 La. We have found no case in which the authority of the successor of......
  • State v. Messino
    • United States
    • Missouri Supreme Court
    • July 3, 1930
    ...That the determination of a motion for new trial is not part of the trial and does not require defendant's presence, see also People v. Ormsby, 48 Mich. 494; Howard Commonwealth, 24 Ky. Law Rep. 612; State v. Sharp, 145 La. 891. We have found no case in which the authority of the successor ......
  • People v. Pulley
    • United States
    • Michigan Supreme Court
    • August 24, 1981
    ...might frustrate the fairness of the proceedings, Snyder v. Massachusetts * * *."4 The prosecution also relies on People v. Ormsby, 48 Mich. 494, 12 N.W. 671 (1882), and People v. Boyd, 49 Mich.App. 388, 212 N.W.2d 333 (1973). Ormsby held that a defendant has no right to be present when the ......
  • Davis v. State
    • United States
    • Nebraska Supreme Court
    • April 21, 1897
    ...in his absence, he having made no objection to this action of the court until after the sentence was pronounced. In People v. Ormsby, 48 Mich. 494, 12 N.W. 671, it held: "After the regular conviction of a person charged with crime he can no longer insist upon being present in court for furt......
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