Ramey v. Thomas, No. 85-534

CourtCourt of Appeal of Florida (US)
Writing for the CourtSHARP
Citation483 So.2d 747,11 Fla. L. Weekly 261
Decision Date23 January 1986
Docket NumberNo. 85-534
Parties11 Fla. L. Weekly 261 Alva RAMEY and Wanda Ramey, Appellants, v. Peter B. THOMAS and Alice M. Thomas, Appellees.

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483 So.2d 747
11 Fla. L. Weekly 261
Alva RAMEY and Wanda Ramey, Appellants,
v.
Peter B. THOMAS and Alice M. Thomas, Appellees.
No. 85-534.
District Court of Appeal of Florida,
Fifth District.
Jan. 23, 1986.
Rehearing Denied Feb. 28, 1986.

F. Daun Fowler, Daytona Beach, for appellants.

Isham W. Adams and Garrett L. Briggs, Daytona Beach, for appellees.

Daniel S. Wallace, Daytona Beach, ad litem for Hope Thomas.

SHARP, Judge.

The maternal grandparents, Alva and Wanda Ramey, appeal from the final judgment granting the adoption of their granddaughter, Hope Thomas, by Hope's paternal grandparents, Peter and Alice Thomas. The trial court also denied the Rameys' counterpetition to adopt Hope, and found against their charges that Peter Thomas mismanaged Hope's funds and properties while acting as her guardian. Because there is substantial evidence in the record to support the trial judge's findings, we have no choice but to affirm. In the Matter of the Adoption of Gaskins, 318 So.2d 165 (Fla. 4th DCA 1975); Morrison v. Smith, 257 So.2d 623 (Fla. 4th DCA 1972).

This has been a long and bitterly contested family dispute over an orphaned grandchild between warring grandparents. See Ramey v. Thomas, 382 So.2d 78 (Fla. 5th DCA), review denied, 389 So.2d 1116 (Fla.1980). The fight over this child began when she was two years of age. Hopefully it will now be concluded, as she attains the age of nearly fourteen years. That appears to be the basic reason for the trial judge's granting the Thomases' petition for adoption, as well as Hope's own stated desire to have a set of parents rather than two sets of grandparents.

The tragedy of this case is that pursuant to the provisions of the adoption statute, Chapter 63, after Hope's adoption becomes final, the legal effect is to completely sever and destroy Hope's family relationship with her maternal grandparents. In this context, section 63.172(1)(b), Florida Statutes (1983) terminates all legal relationships between the adopted person and his former relatives for all purposes, including inheritance. 1

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1 Hope's mother was the Rameys' only child, and she is their only descendant.

It appears to us a harsh and unnecessary result to excise through adoption, a child's family relationship with natural grandparents. Even in the context of dissolution cases, grandparent rights are better protected than this. See § 61.13(2)(b)2 c, Fla.Stat. (1983); Ch. 752, Fla.Stat. (1984 Supp.). 2 Surely a...

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  • Hede v. Gilstrap, No. 04-22.
    • United States
    • United States State Supreme Court of Wyoming
    • February 28, 2005
    ...grandparent visitation where grandchild's parent has died, but not where parental rights have been terminated); Ramey v. Thomas, 483 So.2d 747, 747 (Fla.App.1986) (adoption statute that terminates legal relationships of natural parents and former relatives does not allow for post-adoption g......
  • Von Eiff v. Azicri, No. 96-3273
    • United States
    • Court of Appeal of Florida (US)
    • September 17, 1997
    ...Exposure to grandparents generally provides tremendous benefits Page 776 to the health and welfare of children. 7 See Ramey v. Thomas, 483 So.2d 747, 748 (Fla. 5th DCA 1986)(child's welfare is promoted in most cases by having grandparents, rather than by not having Children benefit by expos......
  • In re Hunter H., No. 12–0173.
    • United States
    • Supreme Court of West Virginia
    • March 14, 2013
    ...(Iowa 1988) (stepparent adoption is only statutory exception to rule against post-adoption grandparent visitation); and Ramey v. Thomas, 483 So.2d 747, 747 (Fla.App.1986) (adoption statute that terminates legal relationships of natural parents and former relatives does not allow for post-ad......
  • Griss v. Griss, No. 87-1454
    • United States
    • Florida District Court of Appeals
    • May 3, 1988
    ...proceedings (April 23, 1984) (tape available from Florida House of Representatives) (floor debate on H.B. 487). See also Ramey v. Thomas, 483 So.2d 747, 748 (Fla. 5th DCA 1986) ("Surely a child's welfare is promoted in most cases by having grandparents, rather than by not having While "uncl......
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  • Hede v. Gilstrap, No. 04-22.
    • United States
    • United States State Supreme Court of Wyoming
    • February 28, 2005
    ...grandparent visitation where grandchild's parent has died, but not where parental rights have been terminated); Ramey v. Thomas, 483 So.2d 747, 747 (Fla.App.1986) (adoption statute that terminates legal relationships of natural parents and former relatives does not allow for post-adoption g......
  • Von Eiff v. Azicri, No. 96-3273
    • United States
    • Court of Appeal of Florida (US)
    • September 17, 1997
    ...Exposure to grandparents generally provides tremendous benefits Page 776 to the health and welfare of children. 7 See Ramey v. Thomas, 483 So.2d 747, 748 (Fla. 5th DCA 1986)(child's welfare is promoted in most cases by having grandparents, rather than by not having Children benefit by expos......
  • In re Hunter H., No. 12–0173.
    • United States
    • Supreme Court of West Virginia
    • March 14, 2013
    ...(Iowa 1988) (stepparent adoption is only statutory exception to rule against post-adoption grandparent visitation); and Ramey v. Thomas, 483 So.2d 747, 747 (Fla.App.1986) (adoption statute that terminates legal relationships of natural parents and former relatives does not allow for post-ad......
  • Griss v. Griss, No. 87-1454
    • United States
    • Florida District Court of Appeals
    • May 3, 1988
    ...proceedings (April 23, 1984) (tape available from Florida House of Representatives) (floor debate on H.B. 487). See also Ramey v. Thomas, 483 So.2d 747, 748 (Fla. 5th DCA 1986) ("Surely a child's welfare is promoted in most cases by having grandparents, rather than by not having While "uncl......
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