Ramos v. State

Decision Date06 February 2008
Docket NumberNo. PD-0921-06.,PD-0921-06.
Citation245 S.W.3d 410
PartiesMark Anthony RAMOS, Appellant v. The STATE of Texas.
CourtTexas Court of Criminal Appeals

Jay Brandon, San Antonio, for Appellant.

Mary Beth Welsh, Asst. Criminal District Atty., San Antonio, Jeffrey L. Van Horn, State's Atty., Austin, for State.

HOLCOMB, J., delivered the opinion of the Court in which KELLER, P.J., and PRICE, WOMACK, JOHNSON, KEASLER, HERVEY, and COCHRAN, JJ., join.

The trial court denied appellant's motion to suppress and admitted his written statement in evidence over his objection that it had been obtained in violation of his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. The court of appeals upheld the trial court's ruling and its judgment of conviction. We reverse and remand.

On February 11, 2004, a Bexar County grand jury returned an indictment charging appellant with the murder of Tracy Ortiz under Texas Penal Code § 19.02(b)(1)-(3). Appellant later filed a pretrial motion to suppress a written statement that he had given to police shortly after he had been taken into custody. In that motion, which consisted entirely of boilerplate with no specifics, appellant alleged that his statement had been the product of custodial interrogation and that it was inadmissible in court because, among other things: (1) it had been given after he had invoked his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent and (2) it had been the fruit of an "illegal seizure."

On July 19, 2004, the trial court held an evidentiary hearing on appellant's motion to suppress. At that hearing, the State called two witnesses (Troy Ragland and Tim Angell) and appellant called two witnesses (Becky Muniz and Mary Muniz). Troy Ragland testified that: (1) he was a police officer in the San Antonio Police Department; (2) on November 19-20, 2003, he assisted Detective John Slaughter in the investigation of a drive-by shooting that had occurred on Delgado Street in San Antonio; (3) in the course of the investigation, Slaughter directed him to locate appellant, who was known to be a member of a street gang; (4) during his efforts to locate appellant, he received information that appellant might be residing with his sister, Becky Muniz; (5) pursuant to that information, he and several other police officers went to Becky Muniz's residence shortly before 1:00 a.m. on November 20, 2003; (6) upon their arrival, they searched the residence, with Becky Muniz's permission, but they did not find appellant; (7) the other police officers then left, but he remained behind in the hope that appellant might soon arrive; (8) about thirty minutes later, appellant did arrive at the Muniz residence; (9) he asked appellant to go to the downtown police station to answer some questions "about an incident that [had] happened on Delgado," and appellant voluntarily agreed to do so; (10) he then handcuffed appellant, put him in the back of a patrol car that he had summoned by radio, and had him transported to the downtown police station; and (11) upon appellant's arrival at the downtown police station, police officers removed his handcuffs and placed him in an interview room.

Tim Angell testified that: (1) he was a detective in the San Antonio Police Department; (2) during the early morning hours of November 20, 2003, Detective John Slaughter asked him to question appellant about a recent drive-by shooting; (3) Slaughter informed him at that time that appellant "was possibly the shooter"; (4) he questioned appellant in an interview room; (5) he and appellant were alone in that room; (6) Slaughter was, at that same time, questioning appellant's girlfriend, Camelle Gallegos, in a separate room; (7) before he questioned appellant, he told him that he was not under arrest; (8) he also explained appellant's Miranda rights1 to him, and appellant indicated that he understood those rights; (9) he then asked appellant whether he would answer some questions concerning a drive-by shooting, and appellant said that he would; (10) during the first part of the questioning, appellant "denied any involvement in [the drive-by shooting] or knowledge about it," and provided an alibi; (11) after about 45 minutes, he (i.e., Angell) left the interview room to speak again with Slaughter; and (12) "[Slaughter then] advised [him] that Camelle Gallegos, whom he was interviewing and taking [a] statement from, indicated that she was in the vehicle [involved in the drive-by shooting] and that Mr. Ramos was the person that shot the weapon." Angell's testimony continued:

Q: Once you talked to Detective Slaughter, what did you do?

A: I went back in [the interview room] and spoke to Mr. Ramos and told him that Camelle Gallegos had indicated that he was the shooter, to see what he would say.

Q: What did he say?

A: He laughed at me and said that she would never say that.

Q: So he didn't deny the shooting?

A: No.

Q: He just said she would never say that?

A: That's correct.

Q: Did you continue talking to him then about Camelle Gallegos? Or how did the interview go after that?

A: Yes, I continued to talk to him. And told him that with the information that Detective Slaughter had, he would probably be able to get an arrest warrant.

Q: Okay.

A: Mr. Ramos got upset with me.

Q: What did he say?

A: He told me that he didn't want to talk to me. That he didn't want to talk about it anymore.

Q: Didn't want to talk about it anymore?

A: Correct.

Q: And what did you do?

A: I told him that was fine. He didn't have to. I got up and left the interview room.

Q: Did you go back into the interview room later?

A: Yes, I did.

Q: How much later?

A: Probably five minutes. I just left the interview room briefly to use the restroom.

Q: Was there ever a point where Detective Slaughter went into the room?

A: When we went back — when I went back into the interview room, Detective Slaughter went back in there with me. Either right about that time or just a few seconds later.

Q: Did you talk to Mark Ramos again?

A: I was present. Detective Slaughter informed Mr. Ramos, verified that Camelle had indicated that he was the shooter. And told him that, you know, it would probably be better if he told us what really happened.

* * *

Q: Did [appellant] continue talking to you?

A: Yes, he did.

Q: And what did he say?

A: He asked me what was going to happen to Camelle. If she was going to be arrested.

Q: And what happened next?

A: I told him that I didn't know, that wasn't my decision. It would be up to Detective Slaughter.

Q: Okay. What happened after that?

A: At that point, Mr. Ramos said that she didn't have anything to do with it.

Q: How did you take that at that time?

A: I took it as an admission that he had been there. And that he was telling me that we shouldn't arrest her, because she didn't do anything. She had nothing to do with it.

Q: And when he said that, that he said that she didn't have anything to do with it, what step did you take after that?

A: I asked him if he was the person who fired the weapon?

Q: And what did he say?

A: He said he was.

Q: And what happened next?

A: At that point, I stopped and read him his [Miranda] rights a second time.

* * *

Q: Now, after reading his [Miranda rights a second time], what happened next?

A: I opened up a statement form, a voluntary statement form from the computer, and took [appellant's] statement.

* * *

Q: Okay. Now, throughout the course of this interrogation of Mr. Ramos, you said at one time you decided to take a break?

A: That's correct.

Q: And you went outside [the interview room], and Detective Slaughter had told you that Camelle had implicated Mr. Ramos?

A: That's correct.

Q: And then you went back inside to talk to him about that. And at that time, Mr. Ramos said that he didn't want to talk about it anymore?

A: That's correct.

Q: Okay. So at that point in time, he has terminated the interrogation, correct? He has told you he is not talking about it anymore?

A: He hadn't terminated the interrogation. He told me that he didn't want to talk about it anymore.

Q: Okay. If — to you, what would you consider to be a sufficient termination of the interrogation other than "I don't want to talk about it anymore"? What more specifically could he have said to you that would have made you believe that he was ending the interview?

A: "I don't want to talk to you until I have a lawyer." "I want to leave." That would have worked.

Q: So if he uses the magic words "lawyer" or "leave," it's over, but if he says, "I don't want to talk about it anymore," it's not over as far as you're concerned?

A: That's correct.

* * *

Q: You said that Mr. Ramos had said that he didn't want to talk to you, correct?

A: Correct.

Q: He had ended the interview?

A: Said he didn't want to talk to me.

Q: Okay. The interview is over?

A: Not necessarily.

Q: Okay. So he just said that he didn't want to talk to you, right?

A: Yes.

Q: Okay. But in your mind you are still going. The interview is still going on even though he said he didn't want to talk to you anymore, correct?

A: People say that to us all of the time.

* * *

Q: And the topic right before he said, "I don't want to talk about that anymore," was his girlfriend Camelle Gallegos talking to Detective Slaughter; is that right?

A: Yes, that's correct.

Q: From the way you understood it, was, was that your understanding of it? Was that "I don't want to talk about if Camelle is giving me up in the other room"?

A: That's correct.

* * *

Q: So when he says, "I don't want to talk about that anymore," could he have been talking about Camelle being in the other office giving up the fact that he is the shooter?

A: That's possible, yeah. I didn't know what he meant by "I don't want to talk about it anymore" or "I don't want to talk about that anymore."

Becky Muniz testified that: (1) she was appellant's sister; (2) on the night of November 20, 2003, five or six San Antonio police officers came to her residence looking for appellant; (3) she consented...

To continue reading

Request your trial
277 cases
  • Lampkin v. State
    • United States
    • Texas Court of Appeals
    • August 11, 2015
    ...warnings and obtain a waiver prior to custodial questioning generally requires exclusion of statements obtained.”); Ramos v. State, 245 S.W.3d 410, 418 (Tex.Crim.App.2008) ). Custodial interrogation refers to “(1) express questioning and (2) ‘any words or actions on the part of the police (......
  • Williams v. Thaler, A-10-CA-979-SS
    • United States
    • U.S. District Court — Western District of Texas
    • July 20, 2011
    ...a suspect "indicates in any manner, at any time prior to or during questioning, that he wishes to remain silent." Ramos v. State, 245 S.W.3d 410, 418 (Tex. Crim. App. 2008) (quoting Miranda, 384 U.S. at 473-74, 86 S. Ct. 1602). There is no talismanic word or phrase with which to invoke the ......
  • Hutchison v. State
    • United States
    • Texas Court of Appeals
    • February 5, 2014
    ...of rights by the accused. See Miranda, 384 U.S. at 444, 86 S.Ct. 1602;see alsoTex.Code Crim. Proc. Ann. art. 38.22; Ramos v. State, 245 S.W.3d 410, 418 (Tex.Crim.App.2008). It is uncontested Miranda or similar warnings were not provided in this case. Therefore, the question as to each state......
  • Hughen v. State, 06-07-00093-CR.
    • United States
    • Texas Court of Appeals
    • June 5, 2008
    ...of a desire to terminate the contact or inquiry will suffice, as will silence in the face of repeated questions. Ramos v. State, 245 S.W.3d 410, 418 (Tex. Courts have recognized, however, that an invocation of the right to counsel may be made separately pursuant to the Sixth Amendment right......
  • Request a trial to view additional results
11 books & journal articles
  • Confessions
    • United States
    • James Publishing Practical Law Books Texas Criminal Lawyer's Handbook. Volume 1-2 Volume 1
    • May 5, 2022
    ...want to talk to him and doesn’t want to talk about it anymore, he has sufficiently invoked his right to remain silent. Ramos v. State, 245 S.W.3d 410 (Tex. Crim. App. 2007). A suspect’s statement that he “didn’t see how he could help himself by talking to [officers],” has been found to be a......
  • Confessions
    • United States
    • James Publishing Practical Law Books Archive Texas Criminal Lawyer's Handbook. Volume 1 - 2019 Contents
    • August 16, 2019
    ...want to talk to him and doesn’t want to talk about it anymore, he has sufficiently invoked his right to remain silent. Ramos v. State, 245 S.W.3d 410 (Tex. Crim. App. 2007). A suspect’s statement that he “didn’t see how he could help himself by talking to [officers],” has been found to be a......
  • Confessions
    • United States
    • James Publishing Practical Law Books Archive Texas Criminal Lawyer's Handbook. Volume 1 - 2016 Contents
    • August 17, 2016
    ...of Right to Remain Silent L ’ H 6-28 talk about it anymore, he has sufficiently invoked his right to remain silent. Ramos v. State, 245 S.W.3d 410 (Tex. Crim. App. 2007). A suspect’s statement that he “didn’t see how he could help himself by talking to [officers],” has been found to be a su......
  • Confessions
    • United States
    • James Publishing Practical Law Books Archive Texas Criminal Lawyer's Handbook. Volume 1 - 2018 Contents
    • August 17, 2018
    ...want to talk to him and doesn’t want to talk about it anymore, he has sufficiently invoked his right to remain silent. Ramos v. State, 245 S.W.3d 410 (Tex. Crim. App. 2007). A suspect’s statement that he “didn’t see how he could help himself by talking to [officers],” has been found to be a......
  • Request a trial to view additional results

VLEX uses login cookies to provide you with a better browsing experience. If you click on 'Accept' or continue browsing this site we consider that you accept our cookie policy. ACCEPT